Diane is joined by Paul Gallagher, Editorial Board, Executive Intelligence Review; Joel Dejean, LaRouche Independent candidate for U.S. Congress, TX-38; Dennis Speed, Coordinator, LaRouche Manhattan Project--The Schiller Institute has released a call for an emergency conference of nations to establish a "New Security and Development Architecture for All Nations" based on the principles of the 1648 Treaty of Westphalia, which I have endorsed. New York Symposium, March 11, 2022. New York Symposium, March 11, 2022 (see transcript below).

TRANSCRIPT

Diane Sare:  Thank you very much. We were missing the last slide, which was film on the nuclear mushroom cloud, but I guess you can imagine that, at the end of that. That is the appropriate ending of that song if you know the people that I was showing. What is going on? What is the topic? NATO as an enforcer of The Great Reset. Well, let me just read you a little bit from the shrill UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss, who came to Washington this week and addressed the Atlantic Council. She said: "The years of complacency against Russia are over. The world has woken up. We must rise to this moment. We must pledge that never again will we allow such aggression to go unchecked. This means acting now. It means being tough because we know the cost will rise if we don't. The invasion of Ukraine is a paradigm shift on the scale of 911 and how we respond today will set the pattern for the new era." And she says: "Let me be clear. We are still not doing enough. We must double down and we have to ramp up the global pressure on Putin. We have to go further on sanction, to tighten the vice, including a full SWIFT ban, freezing all Russian bank assets, encouraging countries to join the effort. We want a situation where they can't access their funds, they can't clear their payments, their trade can't load, their ships can't dock and their planes can't land."

The rage, the genocidal homicidal rage that we saw from the Queen of the Night  and you saw the people from the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset crowd because why, because the issue behind this war is what Lyndon LaRouche identified eleven years ago when Gaddafi was brutally murdered and you may remember than and Hillary Clinton chuckled about it. LaRouche said: "This is preparation for a war with Russia. He said the issue is the bankruptcy of the Transatlantic system and my first guest Paul Gallagher of the Editorial Board of the Executive Intelligence Review, the publication founded by Lyndon LaRouche, will go through this in some detail, but what is it? That you have this gigantic bubble of debt of unpayable payment, and if you can blow up the world and blow up the financial system, then the empire can write off their debt and go about their business, and if they can figure out a way to kill off six or seven billion people in the course of that, so much the better because, you know, they believe that the world is overpopulated.

Now, this has been very well exposed. I'm just going to bring up here for a moment the pamphlet that was just produced  by the LaRouche Organization "Stop Global Britain's Green War Drive", which goes through the finance thing and what is actually behind what they are calling "The Great Reset", the Green New Deal, these other matters. It's a tremendous document. I would encourage everybody to visit the website of the LaRouche Organization and pick this pamphlet up as soon as you can. But there's an opposition to this and today the Schiller Institute internationally released the first list of signatories, of VIP signatories, of a very important call to convoke a new, a conference for a new security architecture, and I'm just going to show you that and say a few things about some of the signatories who are on there, and the text of this, because I think you will see from this that our situation is not at all hopeless, even though there seems to be a design to make us feel that it is hopeless. Hold on a second, I have to make sure that you can see this. There we go. So here is the petition: convoke an international conference to secure a new security and development  architecture for all nations. And it begins: "In light of the escalating Ukraine crisis people around the world are urgently asking themselves and their political leaders where this will all end. Is this heading towards a very big, perhaps even thermonuclear, global confrontation? Are we facing a reverse, even more dangerous, Cuban missile crisis? Will mankind even survive? Behind this  very real danger of war, and the cause of that danger, is the blowout of the entire Transatlantic financial system, a nearly two quadrillion dollar speculative bubble of derivatives and debt is already blowing apart, a hyperinflationary process has been unleashed globally, with an accompanying collapse of the physical economies of the Western nations. The City of London and Wall Street, the owners of that bankrupt system, are desperate to destroy any functioning alternative to their system, such as Russia and China's alliance around the Belt and Road initiative, which now incorporates nearly 150 nations, and the financial establishment has openly stated that this is what is at stake. So Premier Putin has correctly stated that the UK, US and NATO's relentless expansion eastward, up to Russia's very borders, is driven by this economic policy, and that it threatens Russia's national security in ways that Russia cannot accept. And you heard, in case there is any doubt, what the British foreign secretary had to say about destroying Russia.

Therefore, to stop the drive to war it is necessary to adopt a more fundamental approach, which is to establish an entirely new paradigm that will ensure the security and economic development of every nation on the planet. The only recent precedent for this in the West is the 1648 Treaty  of Westphalia, which put an end to 150 years of religious wars in Europe. It was crafted only at the point that all parties realized that if they continued on their current path there would be no winners and very few survivors. They chose to create a new paradigm based on the defense of the interests of the other and on the premise  that the security of all was the first requirement for the security of each party. I'm going to skip down that you have to have an economic system that allows this, which is what LaRouche, the brilliant American economist Lyndon LaRouche, outlined in his four laws: the immediate re-enactment of the Glass-Steagall Act, a return to national banking as opposed to the private Federal Reserve, and then generating credit through your treasury and national banking system to increase the productivity of your workforce of your national economy, and finally a fusion driver, a science driver so that we keep making the scientific breakthroughs required to sustain human life. Now if you thought this was pie-in-the-sky too optimistic I would ask you just to look at the list of signatories here, from Canada we have a number of top scientists here: Julian Fell, he's the co-director of the regional government of Nanaimo, British Columbia, Bill Macpherson, the past president, Applied Science Technicians and Technologists of British Columbia, we have Jim Benham, who is the state president of the Indiana Farmers Union, board member of the National Farmers Union, we have my colleague Joel Dejean, who is on this evening, LaRouche independent candidate for U.S. Congress, Dr. Joycelen Elders, former U.S. surgeon general, Christopher Fogerty, the chair of the Chicago Friends of Irish Freedom, and many more, and if you look here we have important strategists like Jim Jatras, who is a former diplomat and advisor to the U.S. Senate Republican leadership, we have David Meiswinkle, attorney and former president of the Lawyers' committee for  911 Inquiry, of course myself, LaRouche independent candidate for U.S. Senate, and you see we have signatories of very high caliber from Europe, from Belgium, from Denmark, from the Donetsk People's Republic, from France: Jacques Cheminade, the president of the Solidarite et Progres party and a former presidential candidate, from Germany, from Greece, from Italy, extremely important:  Pino Arlacchi, who is the former director of the United Nations Drug Control Program, and he's a professor of sociology, and it goes on: Sweden, Ibero-America, Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Brazil, Haiti, Mexico, Peru and several African nations, Australia, Congo, Guinea, Iraq, Lebanon,Pakistan, in other words what you can see is that contrary to what the news media and other cynics would have you believe, actually probably the majority of people on the planet would be happy to have a new strategic architecture where the world was not run by this group of billionaires for their own objectives to oppress everyone else. And therefore we have to organize for this. But I wanted to have a program this evening where you get a glimmer of what is behind this. The situation the Transatlantic financial system is in and what can be done about it, and also the strategic situation, which is exceedingly dangerous, and I will say for viewers that we will probably have right now the very worst wartime propaganda I've ever seen in my life in terms of lies. You may remember in 1991 when the U.S. ambassador to Iraq told Saddam Hussein that if he invaded Kuwait we would look the other way and do nothing. Then he invaded Kuwait. Margaret Thatcher came over to put iron in President H.W. Bush's spine and what did we get on the news? Pictures and imagery: the Iraqi soldiers were yanking babies out of incubators. Well, it turned out to be a total fraud. But it did succeed in getting  everyone all worked up to support the war. We had another total fraud in 2003. "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction!" We launched a major invasion of that country. We've killed over a million people in Iraq. We have the situation in Afghanistan where we withdrew as we should have long ago, but we also cut off all the funding to a government that was 75% dependent on foreign aid. And then to top it off President Biden took the seven billion dollars that was in the Federal Reserve, which is really the money of the Afghan Central Bank, and divided it: half to the 911 families, half to some alleged relief operation in Afghanistan, which I don't think they've seen a nickel of it yet. And you have about 23 million people who are threatened with starvation there in the very near term, similarly. So we have seen this before. You should understand how you are being manipulated by the press in this country to support President Zelensky's suicidal mission when he is begging for help as opposed to negotiating with Putin to have a neutral Ukraine. And I'll tell you, the British, the Biden administration and NATO seem to be perfectly happy to allow every last Ukrainian to be ground up in this war. That's not what they care about. What they care about is destroying Russia and they care about getting relief for maintaining their control of the financial system. I'm going to leave it there and I'd like to introduce Paul Gallagher who is, as I've said, on the editorial board of Executive Intelligence Review. He is the economics editor and he can fill us in and since we're all here I'll also introduce Joel Dejean, who will be speaking after him, who is a LaRouche independent candidate for the 38th district in Texas. But Paul, why don't you go ahead?

Paul Gallagher: OK, thanks. Well, you were quoting the excitable Foreign Secretary of the UK, who has been a bit of a liability for them, diplomatically I think, but her assertion:  "We are going to stop them from using their assets, from mobilizing their assets, stop them from accessing any of their foreign financial assets, any of their gold'', and so on and so forth, I can tell people pretty surely that NATO is not going to stop Russia from accessing those assets. The real assets involved of course run all the way from Russia's space program, its internationally leading civilian nuclear power production program and scientific program in advanced nuclear reactors all the way to its ability to produce and export food, which is the turnaround in just the last eight years under the sanctions that already were put on back in 2014. Russia has gone from being a heavily import-dependent country for food  on the order of forty percent at that time, import-dependent country for food, to a country which now produces its own food and is a leading exporter both of grain, particularly wheat, of which it is the leading exporter in the world, or has been, and fertilizers as well. And there are a lot of - as people well know - a lot of metals and other strategic assets in between. NATO, despite the wishes of the Johnson government, the UK will not stop the Russians from using and mobilizing those assets. What they have up to now done out of the central bank and the financial ministries in Russia in terms of preventing capital from leaving the country by placing a penalty on capital flight, requiring that capital which is earned by Russian exporters, particularly in fossil fuels, be immediately converted from foreign currencies into rubles so that it would not form capital flight but rather would add to the liquidity of the economy. At first they required that eighty percent of anything that an exporter made in foreign currency would immediately be converted to rubles. That was raised to a hundred percent. Their ruling that they would pay their foreign debts, some of which are about to come due later in March, that they would pay that in rubles and that those rubles could only be converted into other currencies on condition that Russia's entire reserve of gold could be used for that purpose as well as its other foreign currency reserves, so essentially putting the ball back in the court of the NATO sanctioners to get foreign creditors of Russia to pay. They've taken quite a number of steps. In fact I think they've been doing a better job of putting Russia in a position to mobilize its economic assets than the Russian military forces have been doing in Ukraine. And there are more steps still to be anticipated as long as Russia has, and can co-operate with other countries with, its gold reserves, or any substantial part of its gold reserves, which total in the order of twenty trillion rubles in value and which can be used with other countries in order to generate new credit. That may be why you had some group in the U.S. Senate today which started out legislation which they think will somehow prevent Russian gold from being used by telling people in other countries around the world that they can't buy or sell gold if it ever came from Russia. You can imagine there is a certain amount of distrust in many of the NATO countries that their sanctions actually have the power which the British Foreign Secretary was suggesting in order to stop economic activity and even economic expansion in Russia, although initially they are knocked down to a somewhat lower level production as a result of all these sanctions. That's on the Russian side.

Now NATO is consciously, maybe not totally intentionally in terms of what its actions are provoking, but it is consciously crashing the world economy and the financial system including the banks, including your banks, as time goes on. NATO is intentionally crashing those in order to achieve an objective. This objective has been understood for quite a long time in our movement because Lyndon LaRouche made it clear, very clear already, more than ten years ago, that the objective of the financial powers in London, centered in London, and Wall Street, was that if they could engage in a military confrontation including a shooting war, Russia or China, and defeat them, by a combination of war, economic war and so forth, they could - let's take the current example - engage Russia, draw it into an all-out war of this kind, military and economic, and defeat it, then those NATO power, specifically those London-centred, profit-centred, Wall Street-centred bankers, could proceed  to savagely reduce the standards of living and the economic activity of their own populations in order to deal with their own bubble of unpayable debt.  So that this is perhaps the best representation of what I'm talking about and what LaRouche was talking about already a decade ago. The immediate former president of Germany, whose name is Gauck - it's Joachim Gauck - he made a statement at a European Union meeting: "We can freeze for freedom." He went out a little bit beyond that: sacrificing everything, sacrificing all our happiness, for victory, and freezing for freedom. Of course he didn't mean that he personally would freeze for freedom. He meant that you would freeze for freedom. But there are many calls of that kind which are coming not only from Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, who is a little bit in a total flight forward. There are many calls coming from the powers of NATO and the powers from the Western European governments and the Biden administration, that we will sacrifice, we will sacrifice, we will sacrifice, supposedly for freedom. This is their strategy when dealing with a bubble of unpayable debt on a scale of 275 to 300 trillion dollars. Just debt, not derivatives, not the securitization piled on top of it. 275 trillion dollars at least. The everything bubble. A scale never seen before and unpayable, especially the corporate parts of it. They cannot pay it. When dealing with that, in order to somehow get  through the collapse of that bubble they have to collapse the economy and collapse you, collapse your living standard, and they are already beginning to anticipate that they can knock Russia as an economic competitor even in partnership with China, they can knock it out. They believe, they fantasize, that they are knocking it out and therefore they are turning to you and saying "Now you are going to freeze for freedom." You are going to go without food, for victory. This is an economic strategy. Now is it working? Well, there has been an absolutely unprecedented inflationary wave since last weekend. There was plenty of inflation before that, as all of you know, but since last weekend there were increases in the prices, the futures prices, of half a dozen strategic metals, particularly those of which a lot are produced in Russia, and all of the fossil fuel products, natural gas, coal, diesel fuel, aircraft fuel, all of these things, their futures prices jumped in the order of fifty to one hundred percent, each of them across the board, in a matter of forty-eight hours, essentially from the end of last Sunday through Tuesday morning of this past week. And what that did - those prices will not stay that high - they haven't stayed that high - but they are continuing to march upward anyway. But what that inflationary explosion did was to create massive losses in the trading of these materials, these metals, these energy commodities and related energy commodities, food commodities, particularly grains, particularly edible oils, the oilseeds themselves, all of these commodities' prices exploded and therefore the companies trading in them took massive losses. The reason they took massive losses was because they all deal in the futures market and in the futures market they are all what they call "short", that is the futures market three four five months out they are all betting on the price going down, and that's to protect themselves in case it does, and they imagine that the losses they might take on such bets will be very small.  But in fact in this environment, with the price of everything doubling and more, on which all these short hedges existed, the losses were massive. I won't try to convince you. I'll give you examples. One small example, the Peabody Coal  Company, which happens to be the largest coal company, I believe, in the world. Certainly the largest one in North America. Peabody Coal was hit with a margin call, which it could not meet, which was in the order of tens of millions of dollars The margin call was what was happening to every single one of these hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of major companies around the world dealing in these commodities. It got an emergency loan from Goldman Sachs at eleven and a half percent in order to pay that margin call so that it would not have to close up at call and take a huge immediate loss. That was a small example. The metal trader - especially because of what happened with the price of nickel - the metal trader in China who goes by the nickname of Bigshot, who has a whole lot of companies and is a very very large operator in metals trading internationally, faced a margin call between and nine billion dollars: pay up immediately or close out your position. His companies got some grace period from the London Metals Exchange, which happens to be owned in Hong Kong, which helped him, but nonetheless he had to pay and a massive loan was organized involving both one of the State banks in China but even more so involving the J.P. Morgan Chase bank. That loan however has not yet settled the question and it is still possible that the very very large conglomerate of companies involved in this margin call will go bankrupt. China Construction Bank, one of the biggest banks in the world of any kind, faced a margin call which it could not pay. In this case the amount of the margin call has not been disclosed, at least not that I know of. But it could not pay, again. The London Metals Exchange said:  "You can take some time." But in the process the London Metals Exchange closed down the trading in the major metals. And they have not been trading now for a full week. These are the kinds of things that produce very very serious, very big, losses in hundreds and even thousands of corporations at the same time. OK, I'm not going to go on and on and describe one after another after another but here is a result: there is a magazine called "American Banker", a web publication but also print. It is not owned by, but tends to represent, the American Banking Association. And they have a headline in their publication yesterday which is "A big bank is in trouble and no-one knows which one or why." That's the headline. They were using FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) data to determine that some bank......they looked at the amount of troubled assets that the FDIC lists from month to month and noticed that all of a sudden an addition of more than a hundred  billion dollars in troubled assets had gone onto the FDIC's report, which much more than doubled the total amount of troubled assets that the FDIC recognize. They call i a big bank. That's not a big bank, that's a medium-sized bank: 100 billion dollars, 150 billion dollars. But there it stands: a big bank is in trouble and no-one knows which one or why, but if you want a big bank the same publication, "American Banker", quoted a guy who is the head of global markets for J.P. Morgan Chase, Troy Rohrbaugh seems to be the way I guess his name should be pronounced. He was speaking at a capital markets financial services conference on Wednesday of this week. And he said that due to turbulence, which is showing up in emerging markets tied to Russia and in markets by the various economic sanctions,  J.P. Morgan will provide no further guidance for the first quarter, meaning they are going to stop talking to the people who own their stock. But that's not all that serious compared to what comes next. He said: "The markets are extremely treacherous at the moment. There's a lot of uncertainty. There are a lot of clients that are under extreme stress that creates very significant counterparty risk exposure. And the movements here are extremely significant and they are playing out in real time." "Counterparty" in this case is the bank, this bank. Severe risk exposure of J.P. Morgan Chase as a result of what I've been describing to you has been happening . If it is happening and being extremely worried about at that bank I don't think I have to go through every bank on Wall Street and in London for you to understand that the debt bubble: the 275 trillion dollar debt bubble is breaking. It is being broken by hundreds, more likely thousands, of defaults and/or inability to meet margin calls which are a step on the way, in most cases, to default.

So, with that going on, the actual physical economies are at the same time being ravaged. The populations, including the American population are now being subjected to an inflation of which the latest reading is about eight percent year to year, 7.9 percent year to year. Another full percentage point higher than it was in January. This was for February. Everyone understands and feels that the rate of inflation occurring in March is still higher and that in particular the inflation of energy prices, gasoline prices above all since everyone is using that virtually every day, that this is becoming a serious cut to the economic activity and the standard of living of populations.  The transport truck drivers in several countries in Europe have already gone on strike, and this is not about vaccine mandates. This is about their inability to pay for gasoline and continue to transport goods. So they are striking. That's the case in Italy. It's also the case in Portugal. And in may be the case in other places by now that I haven't caught up with. But in addition, food. There was already estimated to be a ten million ton shortfall in what grains are going to be produced in 2022 as opposed to the amount of food necessary to feed people, even at the extremely low levels that hundreds and hundreds of millions of people are being fed around the world now, or feeding themselves. Even at that level a ten million ton shortfall in feed grains, that's now been raised, immediately according to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN, been raised immediately to  thirty million tons. It's been tripled this week, and those effects are going to continue, and many many other effects across the board in which even worse in Europe and in some cases in Europe much worse than they will be felt here, the physical economy will be collapsing. So it is the case as I said at the beginning that NATO is collapsing the global economy and the banking system on our heads and we had better do something about it. That path to doing something effective, the shortest and most effective path is to get behind, and get your name on, the petition for an international conference immediately to set up a new strategic architecture based on a new economic policy, a new international set of economic policies. That call for that conference which Diane was going to put forward - we in this movement stand now for the immediate needs of the world, both to maintain its economic activity and to avoid being destroyed completely by nuclear war. And we should not for a minute fail to take seriously how close we may be, and how close it looks as though we are, to a nuclear war. You have allies, NATO allies, in particular Poland, who are proposing things almost on a daily basis which would take the United States and the rest of NATO into war with Russia. The latest little adventure involving MIG-29 jet aircraft, which they wanted to have Ukrainian pilots come to Polish airfields, pick up these planes and fly them into Ukraine - it was immediately made clear that if that happened there would be Russian missile strikes on the airfields in Poland from which the planes had come so the Poles then turned around and said they would send the planes to Ramstein airbase in Germany where the U.S. airbases in Germany are and turn them over to the United States so the United States  could then somehow fly them into Ukraine. That would have been even better, with U.S. pilots flying these planes into Ukraine in the middle of that. So the Pentagon shot that down. This is typical of the kind of thing that the President of Ukraine is proposing every day and that the Polish government is proposing about every other day, which would lead directly into war, and nuclear war, which I think everyone from President Biden on down has asserted would not be controllable or limitable in any way, and would wind up with every nuclear missile and every nuclear warhead on any side being expended until civilization was completely destroyed.

Now you have, according to reports and actually a publication, a military publication in the United States yesterday active discussion at least at the level of the military colleges of a peacekeeping force so-called of American armed forces going into the Western part, perhaps the Western half, of Ukraine, and securing the Western half of Ukraine against the Russians who would then be allowed, according to these scenarios, to operate in the Eastern half of Ukraine. Even the author of this article concluded by saying there were certain nuclear risks involved in this. But this is the kind of thing that's now being proposed  and it's being proposed even here in this country and it would mean that you and I and every one of our fellow human beings would be dead before Easter. So we stand for the world in terms of what has to be done in a very short period of time to get people from governments and from leading circles otherwise meeting, discussing, considering, a completely new economic policy and a new strategic architecture based on a policy of economic development rather than a policy of trying to savage the economies to save 275 trillion in debts. A policy of economic development which could be the basis for a new strategic architecture. And we can talk more about that. OK. Let me send it back to you, Diane.

Diane: Great. Thank you very much.  That's quite an alarming picture. So, without delay let me go now to Joel Dejean, who is the LaRouche independent  candidate for U.S. Congress in the newly created 38th Congressional district of Texas, who is an engineer, also a long-time associate of Lyndon LaRouche and also a Haitian American. Joel, go ahead.

Joel:  Thank you Diane. Thank you Paul. Now I realize it was during last February during the freeze and blackouts, we were freezing for freedom. But I didn't appreciate it at the time. This week there was a huge energy industry  conference called "The Cambridge Energy Research Associates Conference" for the whole week. It is headed up by Daniel Yergin, who has written a lot on the oil industry. He's done a lot of documentaries. But they keynote speaker was John Kerry, the special envoy for climate change. And his original theme was going to be ”How to transition to clean energy", to renewable energy, which worked so well.

Last year in Texas. But he changed that a little bit to say that well we can't exactly transition now. We actually have to continue to use American oil and gas and possibly turn to our great allies like Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia to see if they can pump more oil, at least in the short term. But the other speaker at the conference was the Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm , and she was talking about how we have to look to 2030 for a transition to renewable energy. Now it's bad enough that these people are still babbling on about the energy transition. But the head of EXXON, Darren Woods, who is an engineer, has bought the line, or at least is mouthing the line, that we have to decarbonize. Think of this: the head of the largest oil company in the United States is talking about decarbonizing. And he's pushing for carbon capture. This is the most ridiculous thing. This is a bigger waste of money than even windmills, because they want to take the carbon dioxide produced by fossil fuels, build all sorts of pipelines and bury it in the ground. We're talking about billions of tons of CO².  So this is what was discussed. Now we did intervene outside this conference. My campaign was there and the LaRouche Organization got the pamphlet the night before we went there on Wednesday morning and we intersected a lot of the attendeess. There were a lot of foreigners, a lot of Brits, a lot of people from Asia. Some from Latin America. We intersected and got them the pamphlets, got them the leaflets, so it was a very effective intervention except we couldn't get more inside. But at the same time you had these industry leaders talking about the transition. You had a gang of war veterans, war hawks, in Texas, led by Dan Crenshaw, who is a former SEAL, who is already in the Congress. He has recruited a bunch of veterans of the Iraq and Afghan war, including my Republican opponent, Wesley Hunt, who just won the Republican primary just last week. He has been endorsed by Donald Trump. You thought that Donald Trump was against the energy transition. Well, he's backing one of the biggest pushers of decarbonizing. This guy Wesley Hunt calling for decarbonizing. But he doesn't want to decarbonize until we've forced China, Russia and India to give up fossil fuel. So this group of veterans learned nothing from their defeat in Iraq. In Afghanistan they want to impose the war policies of the Congress. It's not like the Congress was assisting the war drive but this is the nail in the coffin in the Congress to make sure they stick with the war policy. So this is what is being presented to the American people. We have presented the alternative. Now the thing that concerns me is that these sanctions have targeted the Russian space program. And Joe Biden in his State of the Union, where he didn't know the difference between Ukrainians and Iranians, called for attacking the Russian space program. Now we have occupied: "we", I mean U.S., Russia, European Space Agency, Japan, Canada, we have occupied the International Space Station for over twenty years, and with this attack on the Russian space program, the viability of that space station is now in doubt. Now not only did they attack the space program, the Russian space program with the sanctions. They are targeting the collaboration going on right now in the International Experimental  Nuclear Reactor. You had an article last week in the London Economist last week where they say "Well, this big project is a waste of time and we're not going to need Russian collaboration anyway." So we are literally committing suicide, not only by going after the third largest oil producers in the world, Russia, but we are continuing to push for these unreliable useless renewable energies like windmills, that fail miserably and we are continuing to push for war with Russia. As you went through with what's going on with NATO around this transfer of weapons. So we are goose-stepping right into World War III. And we have to have a radical shift in paradigm. That is the importance of this petition that is going up all over the world and that is the importance of getting people onboard for a conference of sanity, a new Peace of Westphalia conference so that we can not only get away from this warmongering but we can actually go with LaRouche's four laws. And the fourth law calls for a crash program in fusion energy. We should be working with Russia. We should be working with China. And China is next on the hit list. And China is next on the hit list. You heard the Commerce Secretary threaten China if they sell one advanced chip to Russia, they are going to be put on the list. They're threatening China's reserves. China has trillions of dollars of U.S. dollar reserves. They're threatening to do to China what they just did to Russia. We thought it was bad enough when Afghanistan had its billions of dollars stolen by the Federal Reserve. But now they're stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of reserves in countries like Russia and China. This is insanity. It has to be turned around. So with this petition going all over the world and with the beginning of the distribution of the signatories we have the way out of this mess. And I intend to use my campaign to go after these war hawks. I'm sure Diane's going to finish off the war hawk in the Senate there Chuck Schumer. But we have to get the American people to realize they are being taken for suckers. You have gas now in Houston, four dollars a gallon. And you have idiot comedians like Stephen Colbert who says "Well, I'm willing to sacrifice because I drive a Tesla." And he laughs at it. He can afford a Tesla. He doesn't need to buy gas. So this is the arrogance of our enemies. And I believe their arrogance is so far out in the open that that's going to bring the down, especially if there is an alternative on the table.

Now the other thing I want to mention is six months ago the refugees that were on the front page of all the newspapers and all the newscasts were the Haiti refugees at the Texas border. And there was a huge story in the Houston Chronicle this week, which goes through a couple of these refugees who traveled e  ten thousand miles over many years, first escaping Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, then going to Brazil to help in the construction of stadiums for the World Cup in 2014, and the Summer Olympics in Brazil in 2016, that after that construction was done they were no longer needed so they were shoved into Chile, the country of Chile, where they had a good reception at the beginning but then after a few hundred thousand showed up they were treated like unwanted aliens and they were forced out. And these people had to cross the Darien Gap, a sixty-mile gap between North and South America, where you had dozens of people who couldn't make it: children, and where were the crocodile tears for all these women and children who couldn't  make it? And then when they got to the U.S. border were they welcomed with open arms? Like people in Poland are doing, to the Ukrainians? No. They were shackled and put on airplanes and thirteen thousand at last count were thrown back into the misery of Port-au-Prince.  And Haiti was told: "Well, you have to wallow in your misery because you can't work with China. You have to keep doing what you've been doing for dozens of years, which has been abject failure. So all these hypocrites who say that "How could we do that to refugees?" How could a nation invade another nation? How could you hit civilian targets? Well, we are masters at that for the last twenty years. And that's the hypocrisy that we have to point out. And as I said before we have to lay out the alternatives and if people wake up from this nightmare and realize that there is a future, there is a way out, then we can survive this insanity. So I'll stop there.

Diane:  Great. Thank you very much. And now we have Dennis Speed, who people know is the coordinator of the LaRouche Manhattan Project and often moderating with me and Dennis I'm sure you have some thoughts on everything that's been said thus far.

Dennis Speed:  Just kind of taking off from what Joel was saying: you know this idea about that there's a way out. It's a good thing to think about that. I mean there's not just a way out. There's also a way up. There's a way ahead. And the situation may be a little bit different, I think, from what people want to think about. For example, people keep talking about a war in Ukraine being conducted by Russia. Actually there's a war against the United States population being conducted by the City of London. Nobody wants to see that war. One million casualties last year, well in the last two years, called COVID casualties, which basically did not have to happen because the pandemic did not have to happen. The epidemic we may not have been able to stop. That is to say, assuming the epidemic was in fact natural and that it was spreading in China, people, some people, were going to get sick. But the fact that that was something that become a world-wide pandemic was because of the failure of health care. You look at it: this issue of a way out. You're going to have to look for a way in on the part of the American people. George has just pointed out some things about the hypocrisy of the receipt of different refugees and some people know that it wasn't just true that there was the difference between, you know if the Ukrainian refugees had looked like the Haitians, how would they have been received at the Polish border. Well, you can actually answer that because there were many black students from different parts of Africa who were in Ukraine, who were received exactly the way that the Haitians were received, at the Polish border. That is: they didn't get through. They were made to wait. Many of them were beaten. Because they were black. Now this is relevant because it says something about the way in which people can't see the human race. People can see enemies, and they can see allies, but they cannot see the human race. And for many different reasons this is the case, but none of them are good. Now this whole business of people like Ursula von der Leyen and various other people who are calling for everybody to sacrifice - we can all freeze for freedom -  if you look at their income, if you look at what they represent, they represent - well people talk about they represent the one percent, or the one tenth of one percent. Sort of an interesting idea you know if you look at how many people there are on the globe there's eight billion people so ten percent of that is eight hundred million and ten percent of that is eighty million. So the one percent is eighty million people. One tenth of one percent is eight million. So this is to say that you have a lot of really screwed up people on the planet, who are administering, and they operate through think tanks and through military and intelligence and, as Ray McGovern is fond of saying, the MICIMATT: Military, intelligence, media, academic, think tanks and so forth institutions. But that's not an excuse for the rest of us. The talk about the failure of leadership doesn't work. As a matter of fact, self-government, which was given to the people of the United States, is all that this program is about. What we're trying to do is run an independent candidate for the U.S. Senate, the United States Senate, in one state, as an exemplary campaign for how people should in fact think, that you cannot talk about partisanship when you're looking at the kind of insanity you see, for example in the Republican Party. People say "Well, the Biden Administration, that's really terrible."  Yes but look at the over forty Republican senators that were talking about how they disagreed with Biden about not sending American planes to Ukraine, not wanting to recognize that that is an act of war as such. Now, I can get their point because they probably think, and if they think this they are correct, that the financial actions we're taking are acts of war. And they are. We are actually already fighting World War Three. So when Biden says, as you can see headlines from Bloomberg today, that he would fight World War Three for NATO but he's not going to fight World War Three for Ukraine. You know the fact that that's even being stated in that way shows you that people do not understand some of the critique of war. The same way that they do not understand the war that they're actually in. The war they're in is against you. Directly you. I mean I do go back to find out in the supermarket, you're going to find out at the gas pump, you already found it out at the hospital but then you often denied that and said: "Oh no. That's not what that is." We have enough hospitals. We had enough medical care. The problem is that we're calling this a serious disease when it's not serious. Or the problem is some other thing. So people don't want to understand that the war is against you. Yes, it's true that there may be people of different skin color or different economic status some place in the world that may catch it more, but that's not what's happening now. What's happening is exactly what Mark Carney described in the summer of 2019 and what was described again in November of last year by Bloomberg, Mike Bloomberg, and him, and others, including Prince Charles, that they were going to put the world on a war footing to implement what they called "The Great Reset", for which climate change is a pretext. They really don't care whether there is climate change or not. They just care whether you think there's climate change. Because what they are going to do is change your climate, in your house. They are not even going to have to go to your thermostat any more. They just do it remotely. They are going to change your climate. You will freeze for freedom. And you will starve for freedom. Maybe that's what the people in Afghanistan are doing right now. The issue involved here though is that there is a way out and what the petition that we wrote talks about is the immediate implementation of Glass-Steagall-style measures. In one sense the Russians are being forced into some approximation of that right now. That's not a good way for this to be done, and frankly what you need is a conference where if you're going to take measures to dry out speculation and dry out the  banks and in fact overturn this commitment to pay the unpayable debt, you've got to have a conference where all of the parties that have to be central to taking on that monster, which is the City of London and Wall Street agree. Of course that seems to be contradictory because how do you get the City of London to take itself apart. Well, the answer is you won't. And therefore this conference we're calling for for a new security and development architecture is sort of the exact polar opposite to what Liz Truss of the British Empire is calling for. I think what is important is for us to realize that the only way you are going to get this is for independent candidates like Diane Sare to come forward in our country and in other countries. Not merely in mass - that would be a nice thing to say, but people who have the ability to understand what is going on and presenting it. And we should understand that in these days and hours we don't know how long our freedoms are going to be able to be exerted. We've talked about something called the Treaty of Westphalia, referring to the 1648 treaty that ended the Thirty Years War. But it was actually not just the Thirty Years War of 1618 to 1648. There had been war from 1525 pretty much. Peasant wars in Germany. You know, and so that had really started it off, and even somewhat before that , even going to 1517 at the time of the Lutheran Reformation. The point is that this ended that. That is, this peace was conducted. It brought people to the table that were the greatest of enemies. Think about what happened in October of 1962, sixty years ago. Hopefully we'll be able to commemorate the sixtieth anniversary without  blowing ourselves up off the planet . But what happened there was that ostensibly our greatest enemy, the Soviet Union, negotiated in the person of Nikita Khrushchev against the militaries of both countries, effectively, and were able to avoid nuclear war. President John Kennedy paid for that with his life. And the people that did that resided in the United States as much as they resided in other countries. They were a combination, obviously, of people.  Sort of like 911. And that brings me to sort of the final observation I'd like to make, which is about what Maria Zakharova, the spokeswoman for Russia has been saying about these biowarfare laboratories. We're going to be hearing a lot more about this. Let's just say that there were hundreds of questionable and criminal enterprises that operated in Ukraine, that were being operated by intelligence agencies, not only from the United States. Really, from all sorts of places. That samples of anthrax and bubonic plague and other things were destroyed as they began to pull out. But more importantly, there's a story sort of buried in all this which, as it begins to come out, it's going to cause Americans to recognize that the war has been fought against them. And often people that they call fellow patriots have been the enemy. But it's not an American thing. It comes out of a tradition of the British Empire. A tradition of treason. Treason as a practice, as a pastime, as a hobby, as a vocation. Which is what London's intelligence agencies have practised for centuries, learning it from the Venetians initially. That is something that is not American and it is something that as we begin to reflect on this tradition of war - why are we at war again and again and again? How can we be at war when thev Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991? And we were walking all over the former Warsaw Pact nations and Russia itself, for eight years, just walking all over it. How is it possible that now we are trying to claim that there is this great problem that somehow we never saw, and this problem now is confronting the world and it has to be stopped? I think it is important to recognize that Nazism and fascism in its first place was an economic policy. It was pioneered by Hjalmar Schacht, the finance minister of Germany, who was born in Brooklyn, by the way, and that fascism, Nazism in particular was an expression of the desperate need to trash, to loot, other nations at all costs, to pay an unpayable debt. That is what we seem to have allied ourselves with in the case of Ukraine, not because of the Ukrainian government but because of the British imperial system with which we are allied. And I think that's the target and that's the key to why we want independent candidates that will take that on, to speak out, and to be supported. And that's what I think is important to say about Diane's campaign and about who she is and why she's doing what she's doing. So, that's what I'd like to say.

Diane: Thanks very much Dennis. So, I actually was thinking during this, and since Paul is a poet, that we might have some things to say about the potential of the moment, because it is very dangerous, but there is a poetic principle, understood very much by the poet Shelley, about whom LaRouche has written a lot and I wanted to ask Paul if he has some thoughts on that. Paul, you're muted.

Paul:  Sorry about that. That's definitely not the way to speak out loud and clear, like Chapman. This is a principle that Shelley, Percy Shelley, the famous English poet, that he understood or wrote about clearly first, that in certain periods, and let's just keep it short by saying periods like this one, which agitate people to think about what they are doing for their own and for other people's survival. In those periods people become capable of thinking not just for themselves and not just for their immediate families but for their nation and really for the world. He regarded that as the political aim above all other political aims. Really it was the only political aim that he allowed himself, although he was an avowed and energetic political organizer. The only one he allowed himself was to try to get people, as many as he could, to think beyond themselves, to forget themselves in fact, in thinking of the benefit and the desire for improvement of the world as a whole, the human race as a whole. And he also discussed, I think, for the first time, the way in which that sentiment of wanting the benefit of other people, the way that that sentiment could be turned into a kind of political action which was both creative and extremely effective, even though it involved no use of force or violence at all. What wonderful leaders since then have come to understand as creative non-violent civil disobedience really seems to have come to his poetic mind first in the poem "The Mask of Anarchy", which is really quite an incredible work. So that's what I think the way in which impressively everything that Dennis was just saying, he's asking the listeners to think of their own interests, their own self-interests, in exactly that way. And you have to momentarily forget what has been preoccupying you in order to advance yourself by advancing the rest of your fellow-citizens and your fellow-citizens of the world. That's really what was unique about Shelley and it's unique also in Lyndon LaRouche that from the very beginning of recruitment by him to a political tendency he emphasized that thinking like Shelley, and thinking about the way in which poetry became more and more powerful in a period of crisis like this, that was required. It was essential to getting anything done in a real sense in any political movement. So.

Diane:  Thanks, and I think that you see that in the kind of responses that spokespeople for LaRouche have been getting in recent weeks. I've noticed a massive uptick in people watching and listening. Harley Schlanger, the webcast "Helga Zepp-LaRouche", because people are willing now to reconsider things that they had taken for granted, and I think on this level, but we will only succeed if we act from that principle, which is really the principle of agape, which is love of God, love of truth, love of humanity as a whole, and if you start from that standpoint then you'll find that you are doing the right thing and what is required actually. Joel we should probably be wrapping up soon so let any thoughts that you have on what you've heard and on anything that's been discussed.

Joel: Well, we see both parties in seemingly lockstep but I'm sure that if they realize that they are leading their constituents in the whole country right into the hell of depression and World War Three they may begin to reassess their fear of mentioning the L word, mentioning LaRouche. Because they all have bought into us in one form or another, they all have heard about Glass-Steagall, national bank, but they continue to listen to people like the head of the Atlantic Council, who is also here, Frederick Kempe, who if you listen to any of the new media there's a spokesman from the Atlantic Council with the expert opinions on what's going on in Ukraine and what Russia is up to. But if we could break that stranglehold and get these brain-dead Congress people to realize that they are committing national suicide, then we could organize our way out of this. And this conference that we are scheduling for the next four or six weeks will be the key to that.

Diane:  Thanks. Dennis, your thoughts? And also if you want to say anything about what you'll be doing tomorrow afternoon.  

Dennis:  Well, just on what you were talking about, I'd be saying g that I think the idea - Shelley said in his poem "Mont Blanc"

The everlasting universe of things                                                                                                                      

Flows through the mind, and rolls its rapid waves,                                                                                                   

Now dark—now glittering—now reflecting gloom—                                                                                               

Now lending splendour, where from secret springs                                                                                           

The source of human thought its tribute brings                                                                                                        

This idea that everything is inside of the mind, the idea that everything is inside, potentially, of the individual. The solution is there. I think that's the most important thing. And what we're going to talk about tomorrow, we'll have Jacques Cheminade of France from Solidarite et Progres - he's been the head of our organization there for decades, and he'll be talking about both the Treaty of Westphalia but also the failure of deadended ideology. In confronting the circumstances we are in now Harley Schlanger will also be with us. So that will be happening at two o'clock tomorrow. And of course we'll report any progress we've had on the mobilizations for the petition at that point.

Diane: Thank you. Exactly, on the LaRouche organization. So what I would like to say is we are now just a little over five weeks away from beginning the petitioning campaign, which was devised to keep independent voices like mine off of the ballot and out of the debate. We need forty-five thousand valid signatures of New York-registered voters. Also I need, probably at this point at least, about another forty-five to fifty thousand dollars before April 19th to make sure we can do the petitioning. I appreciate very much that my donation requests have been shared and liked by thousands of people. I can say the number of you that have contributed is in the double digits, so not only share and like but if you are a U.S. citizen and a permanent resident please donate. It can be five or ten dollars. It can be a hundred. The legal limit per campaign period is twenty-nine hundred dollars to Sare for Senate. This will help, and I think this is absolutely doable, I mean getting on the ballot and forcing these subjects into the debate. I think people are already ready to hear it. We see that. Whether mankind is going to survive I think is an open question at the moment. I am very concerned about the indifference, the moral indifference that I see, and I think it is really cultivated through the media, which is why I wanted to bring up these questions of poetry. The question of classical music. It is very important, especially in a time when things are so difficult and we are being forced to witness unbelievable barbarism and cruelty from one human being to another, that we keep our spirit and our soul immersed in beauty, that we remember what it means to be human, and we will find that that is a great source of strength and courage, both of which are going to be needed, I think, in great amounts for the period ahead. So I'd like to thank everybody for listening. I'd like to thank all of your for joining me in this discussion, and with any luck and a lot of hard work we will be back next Friday.